This past week we have been designing Mt. Rushmore-type monuments for the original eight AFL franchises. So far we have tackled the Buffalo Bills & Dallas Texans/Kansas City Chiefs, and the Los Angeles/San Diego Chargers & Houston Oilers. All four franchises were at the top of the AFL food chain at points during the decade, and accordingly have had many individuals who could legitimately vie for space among the top four positions in respective AFL team histories. Today is a bit of a different case, as neither the Boston Patriots nor the Denver Broncos ever wore AFL crowns, yet both franchises had members that were important not only to their teams, but to the AFL as a whole.
So let’s continue this process today with the Boston Patriots and Denver Broncos. Below are some names for you to think about while constructing your lists, and as always, you are certainly welcome to add names that I have not provided. Again, I ask only that the people on your lists were in some way involved with their teams during the 1960s. As great as Karl Mecklenburg was, he doesn’t belong on the Broncos AFL Mt. Rushmore.
BOSTON PATRIOTS
Billy Sullivan, Mike Holovak, Gino Cappelletti, Nick Buoniconti, Babe Parilli, Jim Colclough, Ron Burton, Bob Dee, Jim Hunt, Houston Antwine, Larry Garron, Tom Addison, Larry Eisenhauer, Jon Morris, Jim Nance, Art Graham
DENVER BRONCOS
Bob Howsam, Gene Mingo, Frank Tripucka, Lionel Taylor, Floyd Little, Goose Gonsoulin, Bud McFadin, Bob Scarpitto, Dave Costa, Rich “Tombstone” Jackson, Bill Thompson
My work is now done. Let’s see what you all come up with. Have fun!!
Boston: Parilli, Cappelletti, Nance, Antwine
Denver: Tripucka, Taylor, Little, Jackson
DENVER: Lionel Taylor, Goose Gonsoulin, Floyd Little, Rich Jackson; honorable mention Al Denson & those beautiful ‘vertical striped socks’ (guys the Broncos traded away who went on to star for ‘other’ teams would be on some team’s Mt. Rushmore – Willie Brown (HOF), Hewritt Dixon, Ike Lassitter, Wendell Hayes, Miller Farr, Bob Young, Curley Culp (HOF).
BOSTON: Babe Parilli, Gino Cappalletti, Jon Morris & Nick Buoniconti; several honorable mentions (like their entire defensive line the 1960’s to include Dee, Eisenhauer, Antwine & Hunt)
Bob Young was Worlds Strongest Man strong, he could leg press over a thousand pounds and bench around 600, when the world bench press record was 613 lbs held by Pat Casey.
He played a few years (1966- 1970), for the Bronco’s, then a year with Houston. Then 8 years with the Cardinals. He was in pro football until 1981. Powerful blocker and good footwork for such a big man.
Cannot forget Art Graham, great hands, tough guy.
So far I have agreed with Dave Steidel on all of the choices he has made to date.
Denver: Goose Gonsoulin, Rich Jackson, Floyd Little, Lionel Taylor.
If concentrating on players from the early 60s:
Patriots: Gino Cappelletti, Babe Parilli, Ron Burton & Nick Buoniconti
Broncos: Lionel Taylor, Goose Gonsoulin, Bud McFadin & Frank Tripucka
For some reason I didn’t receive the Oilers-Chargers inquiry, but here would be my picks for the early 60s:
Oilers: George Blanda, Charley Tolar, Charlier Hennigan and Jim Norton. (Don Floyd, Bill Groman, Billy Cannon & Al Jamison also could be listed.)
Chargers: Lance Alworth, Keith Lincoln, Paul Lowe and Earl Faison.
Re Denver and Boston (NE)Have to second Kevin’s list….would be my choices, too. , at Houston wuld consider George Webster and Talamini in the mix and no pun intended…Mix and Sweeney, re the Chargers, need jo be in the hopper. Very tough to narrow down….after Tyrer, Mix best tackle in AFL, and after Budde, Sweeney and Talamini best guards. If Groman hadn’t gotten hurt, he would have been up there with Hennigan….they were the best duo in the league initially (with Blanda airing it out all day), along with Powell and Maynard(Titans/Jets).
Chris…
I found your comment regarding guards to be very interesting. You list, in order, Budde, Sweeney/Talamini as the best guards in the league. I’m sure you don’t mean to slight Billy Shaw, but I just find it noteworthy that you rank three others before the HoF guard, Shaw.
For the Patriots: Jim Nance, Gino Cappelletti, Houston Antwine and Jim “Earthquake” Hunt… I would be willing to sub Billy Sullivan with any of the four aside from Cappelletti. Billy Sullivan somehow kept that franchise alive through the tough years – bouncing from Nickerson Field to Harvard Stadium to Fenway Park to Boston College and back to Harvard until finally pouring that cement bowl out in Foxboro in 1970. He was a bit quirky – but he had many chances to sell that franchise to those willing to relocate it in southern states – and he resisted and made it New England’s Team.
Denver: Jackson, Taylor, Little, Gonsoulin…thumbs up to the cartoon Bronc unis
Boston: Nance, Cappalletti, Parilli, Antwine…thumbs up to the original Pat the Patriot unis
This comment is not about the Pats Mt. Rushmore but about original owner Billy Sullivan. I don’t think the present ownership gives Billy Sullivan enough accolades for keeping the Patriots in the Boston area. Everything was done on a shoestring but at least he never moved.
Sullivans ability to sign a 1959 consensus College All American Ron Burton Northwestern, who was the Eagles 1st round Draft pick in 1960 was a tremendous coup and unimaginable in todays world. Burtons signing meant that in the AFLs first season, 1960, of the 12 NFL 1st round picks, half or 6 snubbed the NFL in favor of the new league. Cannon, Johnny Robinson, Richie Lucas, Ron Burton, Ron Mix, Jack Spikes.
That must have been seen by the NFL as a shot across the bow and they had to realize the AFL was serious and deep pocketed enough to succeed.
One wonders what the inducements were for those six, especially for Burton when weighing the options and considering Boston and the Red Sox had only a year earlier broken the color barrier, the final MLB team to do so. The Red Sox player Pumpsie Green, is former NFL All Pro Safety with the Cowboys, Cornell Greens’ older brother.
Tom, you mentioned the 1st round of the 1960 AFL Draft [(Billy) Cannon, Johnny Robinson, Richie Lucas, Ron Burton, Ron Mix, Jack Spikes)…would you be able to provide Selection number and AFL team for just the first round of this Draft?
This is what I have found in most sources: Gerhard Schwedes, Richie Lucas, Roger LeClerc, Don Meredith, Billy Cannon, Monty Stickles, George Izo and Dale Hackbart.
I appreciate if you could–this is for an ongoing project of all professional First Round selections from ever league. You can either do it here or get my email from Todd.
Thank you and if you have any questions, please ask.
Tex,
According to Pro Football Reference.com, The AFL had only a supplemental draft in 1960 and it included only one player, a Tackle from Lamar named Jim Woodruff. The first AFL full draft commenced the following year 1961.
The six players referenced were 1960 NFL 1st round picks who opted to sign and play in the AFL and all Draft years with rounds, team selections, player etc, can be found on various sites including Wikipedia and Pro Football Reference under
Correction on the name it was Jim Woodward Not Woodruff.
Thanks Tom, I appreciate the feedback.
I had seen/heard the 1960 selections were more territorial than a draft per se; under the sites that you mentioned and others.
Just when I read you post, thought maybe I could learn something news and add it my spreadsheet #1 selections.
I did an in depth study in 2010 or so to find ALL #1 selections; it was quite an undertaking–but well worth the effort spent on it.
One area was where players from other leagues were drafted by an opposing league (i.e. 1961 AFL selections in the corresponding NFL Draft.
Noel,
With notable exception like Faison, Ladd, Whitehead, Carolan, Glen Bass Mike Lucci and Scarpitto about a third of the Chargers 1961 draft picks were territorial. The Bolts in 1961 selected Californians Keith Lincoln, the McKeever twins, Jimmy Johnson, Bill Kilmer, Luther Hayes, Dale Messer, Willie Hector and Dan Ficca.
My vote for a 1960’s Patriots standout is Art Graham. In 1963 when he was the Pats’ 1st round draft choice (as well as that of the Cleveland Browns) he had an outstanding rookie year, setting Patriots touchdown, receptions and yardage records for a wide receiver that lasted a long time before being beaten.
If there needs to be a more seasoned veteran for the Mt. Rushmore placement, I would go with Gino Cappelletti whose point after and field goal point stats also lasted a very long time.
Art Graham as the Pats outstanding rookie of the old AFL days and Gino as the “face” of that era.
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